Pumilio Import Reservations

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  1. K-Dart

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    Hi guys.
    So I'm planning an import of pumilios for this spring, taking in reservations.
    Here are all the species available to me (I will not import all of these, only if requested)
    Pumillio:

    -Salt creek
    -Escudo de veraguas
    -Colubre
    -Loma colubre
    - Charco la pava
    - Valle risco
    - Aguacate
    - Rio teribe
    - Vulture point
    - Rambala
    -Esperanza
    -Bocas del drago
    - Uyama
    - Rio branco
    - Bahia Grande
    - Ryan
    - El Dorado
    - Cauchero
    - Punta Laurent
    - Popa
    - Bastimentos
    - Cristobal
    - Almirante

    Auratus :
    - Ancon Hill
    - Bocas
    - Campana
    - Capira
    - Taboga

    thank you

    Kevin
     
  2. snorklboy

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    Do you have any prices and what the import fees will likely be?
     
  3. K-Dart

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    No, not yet, I will know the final prices soon. I'm currently applying for CITES and import permits. When that is done I will know.
    I'm just trying to gauge what species to import right now.
    let me know what you want.
     
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    I am definitely interested in Boca Del Drago pumilios (or possibly Punta Laurents if they're notably cheaper) and can hook you up with a couple of American breeders of them if you like (eg Kevin Hoff) - the real questions are "how much will they cost", and "will they be legal here by the time the imports happen" (as Alberta is currently dealing with some serious issues with our Wildlife Act).

    Please keep me in the loop - hopefully I'll have more tangible info regarding the legal wrangling within the next week or two.
     
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    I am interested...
     
  6. K-Dart

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    Guys send me a PM with the frogs you want and I'll let you know prices when I can.

    Frogs will all be sexed too
     
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    very interested where are you located ?"?
     
  8. K-Dart

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    I'm in montreal but will ship anywhere in canada.
     
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    im also in montreal lol
     
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    What is the origin of the frogs in question? Are they CB and if so who are they from? Again, interested but it does depend on Alberta Law issues.

    Dawn
     
  12. K-Dart

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    They are farm bred in Panama.
     
  13. Scarloc

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    Dang the Cristobal and Popa are nice. Cerro Brucho is awesome but not on your list. Anyone have these locally? Mildly interested on these pending research and if they can be sourced locally or not.
     
  14. Lance

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    Hey guys im just going to point out a few things to consider before jumping into buying frogs.
    These frogs have a long ass journey, scared, stressed from shipping.
    A good majority will not make it through the shipping to Kdarts front door.
    Most will be in bad shape and Kdart I hope you have knowledge in bringing these frogs back up to health. Deworming, rub nose ect.
    Male to female ratios will be in the 4.1 if not higher.
    For those that will be getting reshipped frogs... the frogs will be super stressed from their 2nd flight to where ever so expect more casualties.
    For those buying frogs look at getting 4 pairs each for casualties and chances on getting a pair or 2, trade among the other who have gotten frogs to help with with the offset of sexes.
    Most of all enjoy these super awesome new morphs of Pumilios, and dont be afraid to pick up some auratus, the Bocas morph is super huge and colors are amazing.
    Id jump on this order in a heart beat but things in Alberta with this new law is getting even me nervous.
     
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  15. K-Dart

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    Hey thanks for your message. It is indeed something to take into consideration and I appreciate you pointing this out to everyone.
    It is not easy like buying from a reputable breeder and I should have mentioned that in a better matter. Casualties are to be expected in such shipments.

    Just a quick follow up for everyone.

    I've talked with Pat Nabors and apparently the frogs are not captive bred F1 like advertised to me by the farm, they are wild caught. He also told me that survival rates coming from that farm are low at best.

    I will not be doing an order as they intentionnaly mis-labelled the frogs they sell as CB and I find that very dishonest. + the survival rates are not encouraging at all.

    I'm looking at doing an order with Pat so mostly Costa Rican pums.

    Will let you guys know what develops out of this.
     
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    I've talked with Nabours a few times over the years, hes an awesome guy to deal with. Some super interesting morphs in CR but also some other Oophaga species reside there. I'll be interested to see a species list.
     

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