Mike's Frog Room

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  1. afterdark

    afterdark Administrator Staff Member

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    I've officially got projects for the next little while:
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    3 x 12x12x18 Exo
    2 x 18x18x18 Exo
    1 x custom acrylic
    1 x MistKing Ultimate system

     
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    hesus! need any rio salladillos?
     
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    Saweeeet! You certainly do have some work to do!!!
     
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    Tanks are from a former member here and need to be cleaned up a bit, but I got a smokin' deal.

    Need to get some tops cut for the 18's, but otherwise I'm ready to start building.
     
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    I'm interested in some.
     
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    Probably! If I remember correctly, they have a really nice call.
     
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    both you pm me. Mike are you going to do one tank at a time or all at once?
     
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    Likely all at once, but I have a few different build ideas in mind, so I might make build posts for a few of them.
     
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    Sunday funday!
     
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    Looking for advice...

    This is my first try at a Great Stuff/silicone background - I know, crazy, right?

    Applying the foam went smoothly and I'm quite happy with the arrangement of the driftwood in both tanks. However, last night I tried to apply the silicone and coco fibre over the GS, and I'm not too happy with the results. It looks quite patchy and I think I'll need at least one more round. All the pictures I see in people's build threads seem to go from bare foam to completely coco-fibre covered in one photo.

    So my question is: What is your specific technique for applying the silicone and coco fibre to get good, even coverage of the foam?

    I applied the silicone liberally, spread it around into the cracks and crevices with a paintbrush, and then pushed handfuls of cocofibre over it all. Left the tanks on their backs to dry overnight and stood them up this afternoon.
     
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    My simple advice is that I pretty much always do a touch up round of silicone/coco. Generally I get a nice 90-95% coverage and just need some minor touch ups. I have however preferred to use cork MUCH more in the background and with that I need to use much less spray foam/silicone and coco. Another small tip is to apply a small amount of silicone, then apply the coco to that area, and then silicone another area after. I think that leaving the silicone to cure for too long before applying the coco will net you poor results :)
     
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    i get tons of silicone. spread it around with my latex gloves on and then pack tons coco on top and press it in

    Sent from my SM-G920W8 using Tapatalk
     
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    If you didnt carve back the cured outer layer of the foam then the silicone has a harder time adhering to it. I found I had to carve back every square inch if you want to get the background completely covered.
     
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    Mike,

    If you need anything built (backgrounds,vines ,rocks,branches,vinepods etc)for your vivs contact me.
    I'll give you a good deal.
     
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    I definitely did the small areas at a time thing. Covering basically the whole background in GS was definitely a pain, and I can see that the silicone/coco step is going to be even more tedious...hmmmmm...too bad no one nearby has any cork around.

    I think maybe that was my mistake? Paintbrush spread the silicone too thin. If I try this again, I'll get in there with my hands for sure.

    Now that's an interesting step I hadn't considered. I did notice that when I was brushing off the excess coco fibre, the silicone peeled off the GS very easily. I didn't sand, scrape, or otherwise alter the cured GS before I applied the silicone. Maybe that's also something to try, since I've got nice new dremel.

    Thanks Phil, we'll see how I frustrated I get with all of this. haha. You'll probably hear from me soon.
     
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    One of the new tanks is planted and ready for it's new inhabitants next week!
     
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    What are you using for drainage in the photo above?
     
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    Turface. It's actually infield conditioner for ball diamonds. But it's clay, and doesn't break down.

    It's a bit heavier than hydroton, but I have a 50lb bag of it to get through, so here we are haha.
     
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    You still have Turface left over, love it!
     
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    Ah ok. I always think of turface being much more clay red colour. Does it not wick like crazy?
     

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