Clay substrate for Obligates.

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  1. RougeCreek

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    Just wondering how many of you keep your Pumilio and other obligates with clay substrate or backgrounds. I have used this method in the past for Pumilio, using a recipe from another forum. I'm currently constructing a large viv and would love to know your successes with or without the use of clay.
     
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    i have had clay background crush and kill numerous frogs. my opinion they are tough to get right

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    I agree clay backgrounds do not hold up in a moist environment as the clay is not kiln dried and deteriorates over time. Plus most people use the "kitty litter method". I'm mainly asking about the substrate used to assist with calcium absorption and preventing "MOODS" (mysterious obligate offspring disappearance syndrome). I have never experienced this, but have always used a clay mix substrate, until now.
     
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    Will using a typical ABG mix be sufficient with adequate oral vitamin / mineral supplementation?
     
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    Curious as well to see if anyone else has experience using clay backgrounds and substrates. The latest reading I've done seems to point to it being a bit of a dated husbandry practice.

    Personally I am not using anything clay based for my pumilio except for leca drainage which is unlikely to have any benefits at all.
     
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    I've experimented with clay. Backgrounds tend to turn to mush and slide. I had one that lasted a few years - I think that tank went to @Vincetomeya a couple of years ago.
     
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    When I transferred frogs from the tank I restuck and compacted the clay back to the tank. But from then on it's been really cool. It's actually owned by a good friend of mine, and the growth is awesome on it. It's housing leucs now though.
     
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