2017 Import

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  1. afterdark

    afterdark Administrator Staff Member

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    Hello all,

    It seems that the import that has been organized here on the board has attracted the attention of some folks who missed out on the first round. I don't want things to get confusing in that thread, so...

    I'm starting this thread to house discussion around another potential import in 2017.

    If there is enough interest, great.

    If not, this can be the spot for people to express interest and we can revisit at a later date when the numbers warrant it.

    If you're interested in splitting costs on importing frogs from the USA or Europe into Canada, at some point in 2017, please post here.

    *Edit to include interested parties*
    @afterdark
    @mystah
    @Carlos
    @cdnherper
    @Matthew Eusepio
    @dawndj
    @JenniBee
    @Cody
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  2. mystah

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    Thanks

    @Carlos @cdnherper
    I would have interest in an Import this year. I am looking for predominantly Tincs. I think they are underrepresented in the Canadian hobby.
    There are a few morphs I would like to get my hands on but don't see them often here.
     
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    We would also be interested.


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  4. Carlos

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    I'd be in depending on when it would happen and on what is available. I'm always interested in bringing in new stuff!


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    I'm interested depending on when they would come in.
     
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    afterdark/Mike,

    I might be interested depending what frogs will be available to be imported

    Who in the US and Europe do you plan on importing frogs from ?
     
  7. afterdark

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    Hi all,

    This would be my first experience organizing an import, but could definitely take it on if there are enough of us interested to make it worthwhile. It looks like we already have a decent sized group.

    I'm open to suggestions as far as who to import from. The obvious choice would be Shawn again, but we may want to try someone else to add to the potential variety of species available.

    Please feel free to post your suggestions or comments here.
     
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    I'm not 100% sure about this but as far as I know if we use the same exporter the process should be much easier that the last time. From what I've heard anyway.
     
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    Shawn will use a third party broker the next time he exports to Canada, which will be more expensive and hopefully faster, but there are no guarantees on that. USFW does not work fast, no matter who you are. The problem with the current import was that Shawn and his partner were both providing frogs for the order, but ALL frogs on the CITES permit must have origin paperwork from the main export person on the permit. You cannot have frogs that come from two different people. Lesson learned. Due to that one fact, we had to remove some frogs from the order and resubmit the permit. It goes to the bottom of the pile! If that issue didn't happen, the paperwork would have been approved sometime in December.
     
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    Thank you for the info Erik! This is exactly the kind of thing that it's great to hear from others with more experience about.

    What time frame would everyone think is reasonable/desirable?

    I would think mid/late Fall would be the most logical time to plan for at this point.

    Also, does anyone have any other suggestions for exporters to contact? I'm happy to get in touch with Shawn again, but wanted to see if anyone had any other thoughts.
     
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    That was the time of the year I was hoping for, so if that's the case I'm in for sure. I would love to get some frogs from Sean but also open to other people as well.
     
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    Shawn* sorry
     
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    If the exporter has redheads or granis I'm in!
     
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    Make that two of us.
     
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    Robert Nhan mentioned to me that all of the large oophaga take much longer for CITES approval. They are very diligent with origins I guess? He said 1 year +!
     
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    I'm in depending


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    Just dropped Shawn a message, will update all users in the first post via PM when I get a reply.
     
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    Quick update for everyone:

    I was in touch with Shawn late last week and he will be sending a new list of available species once he is done dealing with the current import. I'm expecting to hear from him towards the end of this week.
     
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    looking forward to it
     
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